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Old 08-01-2008, 03:12 PM
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Well, yes, actually, you do. When you call something a fact that is unsubstantiated and only backed up by the most questionable of sources, that isn't a fact. That's an opinion.
(like Jims global warming BS)

I feel like im flogging a dead horse here.

Last chance... cite one instance where i state a fact that's really just an opinion.

you cant can you

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I don't want to put words in her mouth, but what I think she means is that some of the information you mention is not widely accepted as fact. Right or wrong is not what is important in some people's minds, it's only a "fact" if it is "peer reviewed". Now I understand the value of that process, but it is not without it's flaws - mainly being that anything outside the sphere of conventional wisdom is met with a high degree of skepticism.

I challenge Jimbo to prove that CO2 or any other man made activity has CAUSED global warming and WILL lead to the destruction of the planet. In short, he can't - but even though it is not proven, it has gained acceptance. Is it a fact because people believe it to be so, or is it a fact only if it can be proven?? If Belief is all it takes, then perhaps we need to revisit the many "God" threads and look at them in a different light.
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Well, yes, actually, you do. When you call something a fact that is unsubstantiated and only backed up by the most questionable of sources, that isn't a fact. That's an opinion.

You ascribe much more power to me than I actually have.

What makes a source questionable and what makes a source non questionable? Unless your an expert that topic, than how can you call a source questionable. Any news on CNN and MSNBC is questionable. of course they have 1 or 2 facts in their story, but they leave out any Fact that spins the story out of their veiw point. So...any news, or storys on those networks are questionable.

I would like to know what makes the sources questionable...please point out some FACTS that makes the source questionable.. not someones opinion, but I would love to see FACTS.....
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I don't want to put words in her mouth, but what I think she means is that some of the information you mention is not widely accepted as fact.
You're probably right BMan, but if she can give me a clue as to which particular nugget of information she has a problem with I can be so kind as to point her in the proof direction.

BTW do you remember that "missing" WT7 tape where the BBC reported the collapse before it actually collapsed... now its all blown over guess what they found em.

Memory hole anyone.

Im not trying to piss anyone off for fun, this shit is serious. (opinion)

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I think i found a post from motherfunky in the full tilt forum

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FLUORIDE IN YOUR WATER IS GOOD. ALL VACINATIONS ARE GOOD. WE WENT INTO IRAQ FOR WMD's. AND FULLTILPOKER IS A FAIR, POKER SITE, WHO TAKES PRIDE IN THIER CUSTOMER SERVICE.
PEOPLE WHO WERE SCREWED WITH BOUNCED CHECKS ECT. WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE? TELL THEM TO GET LOST AND STOP BEING SHEEP. I CANCELLED MY ACCOUNT HERE PERMANTLY, NOTHING WILL GET DONE UNLESS PEOPLE TAKE ACTION. PHUCK THESE THEIVES.
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I think i found a post from motherfunky in the full tilt forum
I read that as FAIR POKER SHITE


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What makes a source questionable and what makes a source non questionable?
Excellent question - someone who is a respected authority on a subject is not a questionable source of information - they are a good source of information. Someone who is not an expert on a subject would be a questionable source. Someone who is an expert on a subject but is widely disputed by other experts in his field is not a reliable source. A neutral party is usually a better source than someone who benefits from a particular view (for example, using a scientific survey that was paid for by the tobacco industry as a source on how toxic cigarette smoke is is questionable).
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Unless your an expert that topic, than how can you call a source questionable. Any news on CNN and MSNBC is questionable. of course they have 1 or 2 facts in their story, but they leave out any Fact that spins the story out of their veiw point. So...any news, or storys on those networks are questionable.
Another excellent point. Watching a news story with a critical eye and doing your own research is highly recommended for getting good information.
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I would like to know what makes the sources questionable...please point out some FACTS that makes the source questionable.. not someones opinion, but I would love to see FACTS.....
You don't have to be an expert on a subject to call sources questionable, but you do have to do some research and figure out who's telling you what and if they are a good source of information.
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Russell Brand Ponderland - s01e02 Science

I couldn't believe my eyes, you have to drag forward to 17.30 "OFF TO THE DEATH YARD"

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