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Old 09-04-2008, 11:06 AM
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Well I rarely post in the polipit and CC will surely object to my "gut feelings" But, I like h
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Don't ask me to back it up with intellectual rhetoric because I don't have any. It is just my gut feeling.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:19 AM
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I tried to watch her speechifying, and as others have pointed out, after the fourth or fifth attack on the Democrats without stating any of her own positions, I'd had enough. I did watch most of Obama's speech, and he did not spend the entire speech attacking his opponents. Of course, that's comparing apples and oranges - maybe Biden's speech will be just as full of ad hominem attacks as Palin's.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:53 AM
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What is EVEN SCARIER to me than Sarah Palin's belief in no birth control for married couples and no abortion (even in the case of incest or rape!) is her church's connection to what's called "Joel's Army"...
It’s a movement by radical Dominionists to build an paramilitary organization to prepare to fight to impose a kind of Christian fascism on the world.
I mean... this TOTALLY creeps me out! And I can only hope it does u too...

Joel’s Army is prophesied to become an Armageddon-ready military force people with a divine mandate to physically impose Christian “dominion” on non-believers.

I am quoting here... but please read... Daily Kos: State of the Nation

“Joel's Army is an end-time army has one common purpose — to aggressively take ground for the kingdom of God under the authority of Jesus Christ, the Dread Champion,”
Todd Bentley declares on the website for his ministry school in British Columbia, Canada. “The trumpet is sounding, calling on-fire, revolutionary believers to enlist in Joel’s Army...
Many are now ready to be mobilized to establish and advance God’s kingdom on earth.”

I believe that the Christian Right crazies are on the same road as radical Muslim terrorists, they just haven’t quite gotten to mass-killing and martyrdom yet. Oh, but they will.
These are your future Christian terrorists, America. They, their minions, and their silent supporters (Palin?) have no business being anywhere near elected office in this country,
much less the second-highest office in the land. Sarah Palin has connections to these people. Her church has connections to these people. Her church believes this way.

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Old 09-04-2008, 11:59 AM
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After taking about 294 cheap shots at the 'liberal media', I'm sure if all of this stuff is checked out and true, we'll be hearing about it really soon.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:04 PM
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What is EVEN SCARIER to me than her belief in no birth control for married couples and no abortion (even in the case of incest or rape!) is her church's connection to what's called "Joel's Army"...
It’s a movement by radical Dominionists to build an paramilitary organization to prepare to fight to impose a kind of Christian fascism on the world.
I mean... this TOTALLY creeps me out! And I can only hope it does u too...

Joel’s Army is prophesied to become an Armageddon-ready military force people with a divine mandate to physically impose Christian “dominion” on non-believers.

I am quoting here... but please read... Daily Kos: State of the Nation

“Joel's Army is an end-time army has one common purpose — to aggressively take ground for the kingdom of God under the authority of Jesus Christ, the Dread Champion,”
Todd Bentley declares on the website for his ministry school in British Columbia, Canada. “The trumpet is sounding, calling on-fire, revolutionary believers to enlist in Joel’s Army...
Many are now ready to be mobilized to establish and advance God’s kingdom on earth.”

I believe that the Christian Right crazies are on the same road as radical Muslim terrorists, they just haven’t quite gotten to mass-killing and martyrdom yet. Oh, but they will.
These are your future Christian terrorists, America. They, their minions, and their silent supporters (Palin?) have no business being anywhere near elected office in this country,
much less the second-highest office in the land. Sarah Palin has connections to these people. Her church has connections to these people. Her church believes this way.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H-btXPfhGs[/media]

Susan - lol @ anything on thedailykos.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:11 PM
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she did fine. she can get away with being a bit macho b/c of her good looks. Guiliani tanked, maybe to make her look even better?

debate is where the rubber meets the road people.

i thought the best line of her speech was the Mayor has responsibilty one. quite effective and rang true to my ears.

the line history may well remember, if the GOP wins, could be: “To the most powerful office on earth, [John McCain] would bring the compassion that comes from having once been powerless.” speechwriter should be proud of that line.

i can tell you in my OR today a few women had a problem with the tone of her speech - but they still largely like her.

i am amazed more hasn't been written about her reaching out to families with disabled children - guess that topic isn't that sexy.
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What is EVEN SCARIER to me than Sarah Palin's belief in no birth control for married couples and no abortion (even in the case of incest or rape!) is her church's connection to what's called "Joel's Army"...
It’s a movement by radical Dominionists to build an paramilitary organization to prepare to fight to impose a kind of Christian fascism on the world.
I mean... this TOTALLY creeps me out! And I can only hope it does u too...

Susan, I don't believe in abortion, even in the case of rape or incest. My religion plays no part of me believing that. That is something I have decided for myself.

Are you speculating her church's connection to "Joel's Army"? And anyways, I don't think they are literally meaning fight, I do believe they are referring to what is called a spiritual battle. The church thinks its a fight between christians and satan, and as christians our job is to go out into the world (or mobilize as he said) and preach the gospel. There are many of them all over the world already. They are called missionaries. Whoever wrote that article is blowing things out of proportion. It's only one man's opinion on it and he obviously knows NOTHING about it.

You can't always believe everything you read, especially when it is mere speculation from a biased bystander who has no clue what he is talking about.
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It looks like Ms. Palin is already getting primed for the Vice Presidency as she executes the same tactics to cover up daming information pereftced by our current Vice President.

Stalling the Troopergate investigation? - First Read - msnbc.com

New faces, same crap.
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