Same Sex Marriage

[TheMark]

Sorry but I believe 1 man 1 women for marriage. guess thats what they call marriage.

but, I do agree with a Civil Union, which woud hold all the rights a married couple hold.

[Night Nurse]

I do not believe the Christian church should marry same sex couples due to the Bible clearly being against it (and any other religion that forbids it). But I do believe that the State should recognise same sex couples and allow civil unions and hence grant them the same rights as heterosexual couples.

[Night Nurse]

Originally Posted by TheMark

Sorry but I believe 1 man 1 women for marriage. guess thats what they call marriage.

Marriage comes from the old French verb to marry:

AskOxford: marry¹

marry1

• verb (marries, married) 1 take as one’s wife or husband in marriage. 2 join (two people) in marriage. 3 (marry into) become a member of (a family) by marriage. 4 join together; combine harmoniously.

Although it is usually accepted as the union of man and woman both history and society have seen marriage as a union for different purposes:

marriage encyclopedia topics | Reference.com

marriage, socially sanctioned union that reproduces the family. In all societies the choice of partners is generally guided by rules of exogamy (the obligation to marry outside a group); some societies also have rules of endogamy (the obligation to marry within a group). These rules may be prescriptive or, as in the case of the incest taboo, proscriptive; they generally apply to kinship groups such as clan or lineage; residential groups; and social groups such as the ethnic group, caste, or class.

Marriage is usually heterosexual and entails exclusive rights and duties of sexual performance, but there are instructive exceptions. For example, Nayar women of India would ritually marry men of a superior caste, have numerous lovers, and bear legitimate children. Among the Dahomey of West Africa, one woman could marry another; the first woman would be the legal "father" of the children (by other men) of the second. These examples highlight the functions of marriage to reproduce both a domestic division of labor and social relationships between different groups. Such functions are served even by the more common type of marriage, the union of one or more men with one or more women.

[TheMark]

Thanks Michelle,

I feel just a bit smarter. (yes I even read it)

So, if we hooked up, would we have to get married?

[zelen]

I think there's nothing wrong with two people of same sex get married. Hell, they would anyway be living together. What difference does it make?

But I don't think they should have children... specially gays.

[BAINZZ]

I have no problem with it....If it has no effect on my life why should I care or try to stop it in any way.
And I am sorry nurse but I have to comment on the bible and religion being brought into this.
I am not a religious person....I was not brought up with it. I was though married in a catholic church as per my ex's request...my son has been baptised and goes to a catholic school. So I am not against religion at all.
But for you to say that the bible forbids it....well is it not a sin to have sex before getting married??? Is it not a sin to use birth control???? Is it not a sin to divorce????? Is it not a sin to have an affair????
This stuff happens EVERY day and nothing is said about it!!!!!
So bringing religion in on this topic makes no sence.
Once again....If it has no effect on my life then why should I care!!!!

Just my view!!!!

[kazza1985]

Why especially Gays? Why should they not be able to bring up children. I totally disagree with that. A couple of the same sex are just as capable of bringing up a child as a heterosexual couple.

There are plenty of people out there who shouldn't be allowed to bring up children but I don't think it is fair to say gay's or lesbians are part of that group.

If a gay couple can adopt and give children a loving home, I see that as being much better than them being stuck in a care home, in and out of foster homes or ending up on the streets.

[mrkromer]

Originally Posted by BAINZZ

I have no problem with it....If it has no effect on my life why should I care or try to stop it in any way.
And I am sorry nurse but I have to comment on the bible and religion being brought into this.
I am not a religious person....I was not brought up with it. I was though married in a catholic church as per my ex's request...my son has been baptised and goes to a catholic school. So I am not against religion at all.
But for you to say that the bible forbids it....well is it not a sin to have sex before getting married??? Is it not a sin to use birth control???? Is it not a sin to divorce????? Is it not a sin to have an affair????
This stuff happens EVERY day and nothing is said about it!!!!!
So bringing religion in on this topic makes no sence.
Once again....If it has no effect on my life then why should I care!!!!

Just my view!!!!

Not sure what world you live in, but all of those topics get brought up regularly, whether it be on the news or in my household or around friends or family. As far as bringing religion into the topic, it is very appropriate to do so as one's religious beliefs usually play a very strong role in how they feel about this issue.

For me, I believe in marriage between a man and a woman; marriage is a sacrament. If lawmakers want to blur the lines and create "civil unions" or whatever else you want to call it, go for it. Just make sure there is clear separation from marriage and what it stands for.

mike

[mrkromer]

Originally Posted by kazza1985

Why especially Gays? Why should they not be able to bring up children. I totally disagree with that. A couple of the same sex are just as capable of bringing up a child as a heterosexual couple.

There are plenty of people out there who shouldn't be allowed to bring up children but I don't think it is fair to say gay's or lesbians are part of that group.

If a gay couple can adopt and give children a loving home, I see that as being much better than them being stuck in a care home, in and out of foster homes or ending up on the streets.

I have to disagree with at least part of this. I think a child being raised by 2 females or 2 males misses out on some of the diversity that children raised by 1 of each sex experience. Not always of course, but quite often.

mike

[Night Nurse]

Originally Posted by TheMark

Thanks Michelle,

I feel just a bit smarter. (yes I even read it)

So, if we hooked up, would we have to get married?

I will marry for love... so how u gonna get me to fall for ya?

Originally Posted by BAINZZ

I have no problem with it....If it has no effect on my life why should I care or try to stop it in any way.
And I am sorry nurse but I have to comment on the bible and religion being brought into this.
I am not a religious person....I was not brought up with it. I was though married in a catholic church as per my ex's request...my son has been baptised and goes to a catholic school. So I am not against religion at all.
But for you to say that the bible forbids it....well is it not a sin to have sex before getting married??? Is it not a sin to use birth control???? Is it not a sin to divorce????? Is it not a sin to have an affair????
This stuff happens EVERY day and nothing is said about it!!!!!
So bringing religion in on this topic makes no sence.
Once again....If it has no effect on my life then why should I care!!!!

Just my view!!!!

I wasn't bringing in a judgement call it is my opinion that religious factions should not knowingly go against, in this case, Biblical beliefs. Hence for religious ministers to marry a same sex couple it is going against what the Bible believes in... as representatives of that faction they make a mockery. For a parishioner to have sex before marriage they sin and get the chance to repent but they are not figureheads making endorsements. Hope you can see the difference.

Originally Posted by mrkromer

For me, I believe in marriage between a man and a woman; marriage is a sacrament. If lawmakers want to blur the lines and create "civil unions" or whatever else you want to call it, go for it. Just make sure there is clear separation from marriage and what it stands for.

mike

my post made clear marriage stands for a union, society and history within has for the most part dictated man and woman

Originally Posted by mrkromer

I have to disagree with at least part of this. I think a child being raised by 2 females or 2 males misses out on some of the diversity that children raised by 1 of each sex experience. Not always of course, but quite often.

mike

In an ideal world a child is brought up by a loving father and a loving mother... this world is far from ideal and two loving parents of whatever sex is far better than one parent, far better than one good and one bad parent and far better than two bad parents. That is not to say the one parent and the one good parent is doing a bad job... but parenting brings with it stresses and two parents are normally better equipped than one alone (a very simple example is that if one parent is stressed the other can take the burden).