Sarah Palin For President In 2012?

[bluffmanxx]

Originally Posted by spaceboy761

Right. Because only horrible Chrisitians get elected.

I think you miss the point Greg.

There is a strong anti Christian (or probably anti Christian values) block out there that attacks anytime someone who tries to live up to those values slips up. The hypocrite charge is thrown quickly and with much weight, mostly by people who are themselves being hypocritical

[LadyWrestler]

What Is A Christian?

[spaceboy761]

Originally Posted by bluffmanxx

I think you miss the point Greg.

There is a strong anti Christian (or probably anti Christian values) block out there that attacks anytime someone who tries to live up to those values slips up. The hypocrite charge is thrown quickly and with much weight, mostly by people who are themselves being hypocritical

And how might you expain two out of out last three elections given the tremendous power of this voting block?

[bluffmanxx]

Originally Posted by spaceboy761

And how might you expain two out of out last three elections given the tremendous power of this voting block?

the key word in your statement is past

let's focus on what happened this time around. demographics and attitudes are different than they were in 2000 and 2004. baring the unforeseen and given recent trends, do you think 2012 will bring a kinder attitude about christian values??

[spaceboy761]

I think that if the good minisiter Mike Huckabee ran against Barack Obama this year, Obama would be headed back to the Senate.

[bluffmanxx]

Originally Posted by spaceboy761

I think that if the good minisiter Mike Huckabee ran against Barack Obama this year, Obama would be headed back to the Senate.

but he is not a "good" christian

you should see what some of the far right bible thumpers have said about him.

[spaceboy761]

OK. Please tell me that a man who was an ordained Baptist minister is considered 'not Christian enough' for the hardcore righties. Or is he one of those 'kind of religiousy but not really' Joel Osteen type preachers?

Joel Osteen has zero religious education, btw. He never went to a seminary and instead majored in... dum da da daaaa... TV production. No real connection here, I was just surprised when I learned that.

[bluffmanxx]

Originally Posted by spaceboy761

OK. Please tell me that a man who was an ordained Baptist minister is considered 'not Christian enough' for the hardcore righties. Or is he one of those 'kind of religiousy but not really' Joel Osteen type preachers?

Joel Osteen has zero religious education, btw. He never went to a seminary and instead majored in... dum da da daaaa... TV production. No real connection here, I was just surprised when I learned that.

i was reading some statements that came out in response to the critical statements from Huckabee's book. (released today i believe)

New Huckabee book rips Mitt, Fred, evangelical leaders, pretty much everyone

read the comments following the story. i was pretty surprised that so many were so critical.

one of the more well written comments...

I strongly question the grasp on reality of anyone who asserts, with sincerity, that Huckabee is a conservative politician.

Huckabee garnered support in the primaries by being the “Jesus candidate” that all good born-again Christians were informed by their pastors to support. Former-pastor Huck worked the church circuit for his own political gain, setting himself up to be the Christians’ choice candidate — all the while engaging in despicable and un-Christian attacks against Romney. I understand the political value of attack ads, and in attacking your most dangerous opponent, but Huckabee did so under the Christian banner. He prostituted the church and the image of Christianity for his own personal gain.

I am a life-long, old-school evangelical Christian (and supporter of Fred’s federalist ideas) who watched with disgust as Huckabee, with feigned words of populism, made merchandise of many other proclaimed-evangelical Christians.

Huckabee is a mere shade of a man — the fat band geek who grew up into a pissy beta male — who claims Christ as his homeboy but refuses to forgive those who trespass against him.

I hope he gets the entirety of his rewards in this life.

there are many more...and plenty of supporters too.

BTW, my top two choices on the republican side were Huckabee and Romney. McCain was actually my 4th choice...but still better than that guy who won...what's his name again???

[billynomates]

OK. Please tell me that a man who was an ordained Baptist minister is considered 'not Christian enough' for the hardcore righties

I always thought Frank had a hidden agenda!

[billybob]

I believe Bill Graham would qualify!!!! If we all lived like him and his wife, this would be a better, world!!!