A Moron(or group of) created this Oxymoron

[spaceboy761]

Originally Posted by r8rcrzy

Tell that to my satellite dish installer. Couldn't speak barely a word of English and had to be called out again cause he botched the job the first time.

True enough, but I'll bet that the fucker is making more money and has better job security than the guy on the assembly line that produced that satellite dish.

[Moab]

Hummmmmmmmm......... Bluffman, sounds like the old I'm not a republican but a free thinking republican in independent clothing. Now let me see you call a Republican who doesn't think like you a RINO, so does that make you a RIIC?

[Moab]

Really my dish was made in China ...

[spaceboy761]

Originally Posted by Moab

Really my dish was made in China ...

Then the installation guy definitely has the better gig.

[HurtinGuy]

Originally Posted by spaceboy761

Then the installation guy definitely has the better gig.

My brother has a factory in CHina. He was saying his employees work 7 days a week but have holidays off, several long vacations (paid) and get paid a "13th month" bonus. So they get paid 13 months for about 10 months of work. Granted, they aren't making $100k a year but it's not as bad as it's made out to be. Then again, my brother is a closeted republican so he was probably just bullshitting me.

[ColdCase]

These are some figures I found after a quick search:

1. "Pinning down what Chinese production workers are paid can be tricky. Based on Chinese government figures, the average manufacturing wage in China is 64 cents an hour, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and demographer Judith Banister of Javelin Investments, a consulting firm in Beijing. That rate assumes a 40-hour week. In fact, 60- to 100-hour weeks are common in China, meaning that the real manufacturing wage is far less. Based on his own calculations from plant inspections, the veteran compliance manager estimates that employees at garment, electronics, and other export factories typically work more than 80 hours a week and make only 42 cents an hour."

2. "The official minimum wage, which is set by local or provincial governments
ranges from $45 to $101 a month."

Rules are put in place to help out the worker:

3. " But squeezing margins doesn't solve the larger social issue. Chang says he regularly loses skilled employees to rival factories that break the rules because many workers are eager to put in longer hours than he offers, regardless of whether they get paid overtime rates. Ultimately, the economics of global outsourcing may trump any system of oversight that Western companies attempt. And these harsh economic realities could make it exceedingly difficult to achieve both the low prices and the humane working conditions that U.S. consumers have been promised."

[HurtinGuy]

Originally Posted by ColdCase

These are some figures I found after a quick search:

1. "Pinning down what Chinese production workers are paid can be tricky. Based on Chinese government figures, the average manufacturing wage in China is 64 cents an hour, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and demographer Judith Banister of Javelin Investments, a consulting firm in Beijing. That rate assumes a 40-hour week. In fact, 60- to 100-hour weeks are common in China, meaning that the real manufacturing wage is far less. Based on his own calculations from plant inspections, the veteran compliance manager estimates that employees at garment, electronics, and other export factories typically work more than 80 hours a week and make only 42 cents an hour."

2. "The official minimum wage, which is set by local or provincial governments
ranges from $45 to $101 a month."

Rules are put in place to help out the worker:

3. " But squeezing margins doesn't solve the larger social issue. Chang says he regularly loses skilled employees to rival factories that break the rules because many workers are eager to put in longer hours than he offers, regardless of whether they get paid overtime rates. Ultimately, the economics of global outsourcing may trump any system of oversight that Western companies attempt. And these harsh economic realities could make it exceedingly difficult to achieve both the low prices and the humane working conditions that U.S. consumers have been promised."

You also pay 40% in taxes in Canada. Your meals cost 10 times more and transportation and daily consumables cost 8-10 times more than they do in China.

[iluvrubies]

Originally Posted by HurtinGuy

...Your meals cost 10 times more and transportation and daily consumables cost 8-10 times more than they do in China.

John - are you telling me I paid too much for my eggrolls and Mongolian beef last night

[spaceboy761]

Originally Posted by HurtinGuy

You also pay 40% in taxes in Canada. Your meals cost 10 times more and transportation and daily consumables cost 8-10 times more than they do in China.

True as this is, China still has a LONG way to go to bring its overall standard of living up to par with Canada and the rest of the developed world. They're making progress, but there's still a huge portion of the Chinese population that lives on very little. If you think the wealth gap is huge in the US, China's is ridiculous.

[maverick35]

Old Mav realizes we may always count up on Moab to go off up on a rant and so rave regarding some point regarding Republicans and her Moabs own sensitivity regarding Liberal Democrats right ??? Alas if just only there were more Moabs and so less dull boring sane members in this forum again alas butt gotta settle for exactly just only one 1 Moab butt at least one 1 is better than no not none right ??? As for living in China and or Canada old Mav realizes getta rent reduced modern senior center from the government so needed turn 62 before the government finaly admited old Mav existed lost lotta years decades butt finaly starting begining to have fun right ??? ha ha ha only joking sorry right... sorry old Mav