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for starters, she would not be where she is if her name were Hillary Johnson.

my list of reasons is pretty long and i can't imagine that you don't understand why people dislike Hillary. that would be like saying that i fail to understand why so many people hate George Bush.....

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I'm curious what Barack Obama has has done to inspire people so much???
i ask myself this question every day. all i can come up with is that he is a very good speaker with charisma and Oprah likes him.

then again, what has Hillary accomplished??

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for starters, she would not be where she is if her name were Hillary Johnson.

my list of reasons is pretty long and i can't imagine that you don't understand why people dislike Hillary. that would be like saying that i fail to understand why so many people hate George Bush.....
Damn. You got lost within your own post, and it wasn't a very long post. Where would George Bush be if his last name weren't Bush? If his Father's people hadn't worked to get him elected he'd be nowhere. He failed at everything he ever tried to do, save one endeavor. And he didn't find any sort of success until............. the Clinton administration (when everyone was making money).

So, again, state why you hate Hillary. If there's so many reason you could name three, right?

Why do people hate George Bush? How about invading a sovereign nation for no reason. How about including in the No Child Left Behind Act the insistence that military recruiters have access to EVERY child's home address , phone number, and other personal information. And the hits keep coming: let's spend hundreds of billions on a stimulus package to jump start the economy by giving people checks and buying them off. How about the budget deficit. Or the fact that he thinks Global Warming is a myth. If Hillary had done half this shit she'd be burned at the stake.
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i ask myself this question every day. all i can come up with is that he is a very good speaker with charisma and Oprah likes him.

then again, what has Hillary accomplished??
What did George Bush accomplish? Bought low and sold high the Texas Rangers? What did Bill Clinton accomplish before he came to office?
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Damn. You got lost within your own post, and it wasn't a very long post. Where would George Bush be if his last name weren't Bush? If his Father's people hadn't worked to get him elected he'd be nowhere. He failed at everything he ever tried to do, save one endeavor. And he didn't find any sort of success until............. the Clinton administration (when everyone was making money).

So, again, state why you hate Hillary. If there's so many reason you could name three, right?

Why do people hate George Bush? How about invading a sovereign nation for no reason. How about including in the No Child Left Behind Act the insistence that military recruiters have access to EVERY child's home address , phone number, and other personal information. And the hits keep coming: let's spend hundreds of billions on a stimulus package to jump start the economy by giving people checks and buying them off. How about the budget deficit. Or the fact that he thinks Global Warming is a myth. If Hillary had done half this shit she'd be burned at the stake.
I got lost??? I think you got lost. I was not defending George Bush. Just used the hatred of him as an example. It's pretty obvious why people dislike him and even if I disagree with SOME of the reasons, I understand why.

My point was this: to not understand why Hillary is disliked is as unfathomable as not understanding why George Bush is disliked.

Thanks though for pointing out why you dislike Bush, good job of spinning the topic.

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What did George Bush accomplish? Bought low and sold high the Texas Rangers? What did Bill Clinton accomplish before he came to office?
and look how well those worked out...all clinton really did was shovel the BS and have the good fortune of being in office while the dot com bubble inflated. lucky for him it popped so close to the end of his term that someone else took the blame for the economic trouble that followed.

oh, and as i recall if ole bill had pulled the trigger when he had the chance the NYC skyline would most likely look a bit different today.

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I got lost??? I think you got lost. I was not defending George Bush. Just used the hatred of him as an example. It's pretty obvious why people dislike him and even if I disagree with SOME of the reasons, I understand why.

My point was this: to not understand why Hillary is disliked is as unfathomable as not understanding why George Bush is disliked.

Thanks though for pointing out why you dislike Bush, good job of spinning the topic.
You did get lost. You stated your dislike of Hillary as "she would not be where she is if her name were Hillary Johnson" then, in the very same post, asked why people hate George Bush? George "Johnson" would not have won 8 years ago.

You also ask what has Hillary done. If that's the case then what has she done WRONG?

Finally, you asked why people dislike George Bush. I gave a very few of my reasons. You call that spin? I'm buying you a GPS so you don't get lost.
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